Fall Turkey
Hunting with a Labrador by Tom McMurray
With
some pictures to show Maggie is just a regular family dog. Click on
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"I have been hunting
Fall wild turkey in the mountains of Virginia since 1985. I learned the
most effective way to be successful was the art of the bust and call
back. In 1992 my whole style of hunting the Fall wild turkey changed
when I got my first ever Labrador retriever and took the time to train
him to hunt with me (or maybe he trained me). He became my hunting
partner and dedicated companion.
![]() If I was to share one thing from this seminar with both veteran and rookie Turkey Doggin hunters, it would be that there is no one way or one type of dog that is the best for Fall Turkey hunting. There might be a way or dog that you prefer but many breeds and mixed breeds will work. This of course is my humble opinion again based on hunting for turkey with Labrador Retrievers since 1992 and listening to the stories the experts told at the seminar. The classic Turkey Dog is the far ranging setter type dog that barks like crazy when they reach a flock to alert the hunter of a ![]() When I started hunting turkey with a dog back in 1992, to say I was on a budget would be an understatement. There was no way I would have been able to convince my bride to pay for a dog specifically so I could spend more time in the woods without her! Now a cute cuddly Lab puppy was a different story. Once I put that puppy in her arms the deal was sealed. Now I just needed to get the dog to hunt turkey. How hard could that be. To be honest I would not describe it as hard at all, more fun than anything. Of course I love dogs so that helps. I can say the dog probably taught me as much as how to hunt the Fall turkey as I taught the dog. The key was patience and flexibility. I will not go into the training techniques I came up with, modified from what I learned from dogs I had grown up with, or straight up got out of a dog training book. I will save that for another article. What I will tell you about training is that I believe any dog with hunting instinct can probably be trained to hunt the Fall turkey. Maybe not in the classic style like a J.T Byrne dog but in a way that fits the dog you own. One key would be to start when they are a puppy. For this article, I will describe how any Lab I have trained hunts and differs from the classic turkey dog. The dog and I wil ![]() ![]() I train my dogs with hand signals, in addition to voice/sound commands, something that became even more important when I was graced with a Special Needs child. In the woods I can give my dog a signal to stay and hide from any distance as long as they can see me remember my dogs do not range big so I am in voice range or visual contact at all times. This has paid off many times. I can remember times when I had the dog away from me 20 yards hiding in plain view of the turkey but stayed motionless and was able to call a bird in for the harvest. I have had the dogs hide out in front of me a ways (again due to the circumstance we found ourselves in) and let the turkey get close before I give the bust command and get tremendous scatters. I have had the dog hide at a distance with a hand signal and wait until the birds were in a position so that when I released the dog (again with a hand signal) that the dog pushed the birds to the gun. I have even had the dog in view (fairly close to me), made a call, received an answer not too far off, and watched the dog look at me and go into the hide without the command. ![]() Now I will be the first one to tell you that I am a turkey hunter and not a turkey caller. Yes, I can call turkey with many different types of calls. There is no way though that I would win any calling contests. I admit that I have and will continue to take turkey if the opportunity presents itself, however it presents itself, as long as it is legal. There have been birds that I never called to or never called to me. There are birds that I would have never taken without the dog and birds that have spooked because of the dog. I have missed turkey inexplicably and gotten a look from my dog that I could almost hear the words you have got to be kidding me! I will also tell you that there is not a greater day in the woods, than with your four legged companion, no matter how they hunt. Take your dog hunting and adapt to their style. You will become a better hunter and have the best of companions." Tom McMurray and Maggie - just a regular guy with a regular dog that love to hunt turkey together. 2/25/16 McMurrayBuilders.com |
To all my fellow turkey doggin and hunting enthusiasts, please, please, hunt with your kids and not for them! I'm not sure who it benefits most (you or your children) but the world will be a better place!" Tom 10/22/16 |
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As far as the SKYREST
goes, it has been a long road and so much to tell! I will start with a
disclaimer... I am one of the inventors. I have been using one for 18
plus years. Actually the same one. Great product that has stood up to
18 years and a lot of hunting! The
best gun rest out there for hunting
from a treestand hands down in my opinion. Yes I know, I
am one of the
inventors, so what else would I say but let me explain. ![]() Well... after that ordeal I was pretty tired and basically shakey as far as holding a gun steady. At least that was my excuse for missing. I don't know how many deer. My buddy got tired of hearing me whine is what it really comes down to! One day he called me and said he had a solution to my missing problem. I was intrigued of course. I met him at a property where we had permission to hunt and there was a field where we could take long shots. He showed up with a block of wood with a hole in it and a wooden Y arm that had a string attached basically. I think I may have laughed, but either way had my doubts this could solve anyone's yips until I tried it! I was amazed at how steady it held the crosshairs on a target and how accurate I was shooting. Well after that he and I went back and forth with ideas to refine the design. At first it was just something for us to use. Once we got the basic design done (there have been modifications since then and many discussed that I will not go into here) and we were using it on all our hunts, people started to ask us where we got it and if they could get one. We took it to the next level thinking maybe we have something here. We started building them in his dad's barn in Elkton VA and selling them online. Well, we took it as far as having it produced in China, but family, work and life got in the way and we just couldn't spend the time it needed to make it work on a mass basis. It was just too much for us at the time. Both of us starting families and it was a full time job to get this off the ground, which both Marc and I already had. Marc and I and of course the hundreds we actually sold were out there being used, but there were none in production for a while. ![]() There's a lot more to it than that, as you can imagine, but that is the basic gist. I use it mainly when rifle hunting, but have used it with a shotgun, pistol and crossbow. If you go to the website Todd set up, you will see me in a lot of the pics. He uses a young lady on the website which I feel might deter a lot of serious hunters from thinking it is for anyone, from the most experienced to the beginner, but it truly is. My son grew up shooting off of it. Everyone I have let shoot off of mine wants to buy one... at least that is what they tell me. I can confidently say this. If you are a beginner or have a hard time holding up a heavy gun for whatever reason it is for you. If you are the most experienced hunter and pride yourself on your accuracy and ethical kill shots it is for you. It is for everyone in between those two as well! I will close with this, to give an idea of how it can help anyone be a better shot. I am right handed. I am in a ladder stand with a rail. A deer shows up quickly on my right hand side, following a hot doe and both are moving in a direction that will take them behind me. There is a small window of opportunity. Even the best shooter out there would have trouble being confident they could get on that deer and make an ethical shot. The rail is not going to help, so it is a free hand shot on your off side. With the SKYREST, not only does the shot become possible for an experienced hunter, but even for a beginner. I have proof as both my son and daughter had that experience and both dropped their deer. I could tell you so many stories as I am a meat hunter (allergic to beef!) and Fall is when I do my grocery shopping. Between my son and I we shoot between 12 and 15 deer a year on average, to load up the freezer for the year. I have shot quote a few with a muzzleloader as well, using the SkyRest. My buddy Marc Eppard actually started filming to try and promote the product, to help Todd get it out there. He has YouTube Product Review pages now: PART 1 setup and overview. PART 2 Ben's Nice 10 Pointer. PART 3 A Gun Rest and a Camera Mount. The first film is of me demonstrating how to use it. This was taken one day we were hunting and it was just dead out - no deer movement. I told him let's film a demo. No script, no plan, just got up and talked about it and demoed it. That is how easy it is to use and how comfortable I am with it. Thanks for reading, send me an email if you want to talk more about it. I love it! Tom McMurray, Lorton, VA 12/11/20 https://theskyrest.com/ |
Macey is now
1.5 years old.
The third lab I have trained to turkey hunt. This past Fall was her
first season hunting and she did not disappoint. I do not get to hunt
very often as I still work but Macey hunted hard when we got to go. The
properties we hunt did not have many birds this year at least when we
hunted. She busted several singles and we are still working on staying
off of deer. She did busy a small flock of adult hens on a mountain
hunt that ended up with her first turkey, a bearded hen! Looks like I
have my next turkey dog for life! Tom 2/8/23 |
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