Fall turkey hunting
with dogs is currently allowed in 29 out of 43 states with fall seasons
(2020): CA,
CT,
CO,
HI,
IA,
ID,
KS,
KY,
MD,
ME,
MI,
MT, ND,
NE,
NH,
NJ,
NV,
NY,
OH,
OR,
PA,
TN,
TX,
UT,
VT, VA,
WV,
WI,
WY.
In 1992, only ten states allowed dogs for fall turkey hunting (CA, CO, NE, NY, ND, TX, VT, VA, WV, WY). Every year more states have fall seasons, and more states allow turkey dogs. By 2004, hunters in 12 more states enjoy the sport (HI, ID, KS, KY, MD, MI, NC, NJ, NV, OH, OR, TN) in 36 states. In 2005, IA and MT allowed dogs for fall turkey hunting (from the beginning of their fall seasons), for a current total of 24 out of 43 states with fall seasons. In 2007, ME, NH, PA, and WI (3 year/9 county pilot hunt, permanent statewide in WI 2010) allowed dogs for fall turkey hunting, for a current total of 28 out of 44 states with fall seasons. In 2009 AR and NC ended their fall seasons (and NC allowed dogs). ![]() In 2014 UT opened their fall season (they already allowed dogs for spring), making it 29 out of 43 states. 14 States with a fall season that don't allow dogs (2015) are labeled with the OUTLAW BADGE: AL, AZ, FL, IL, IN, MA, MN, MO, MS, NM, OK, RI, SD, WA. 7 States without a fall season (2015): AK, AR, DE, GA, LA, NC, SC |
![]() ![]() The Lenape name for the turkey is Tshikintim, meaning: 'He scrapes with the hands'. (Algonquians call the feet of large birds 'hands'. The Lenape are an Algonquian tribe from eastern PA, DE, NJ, lower Hudson Valley and western Long Island areas in NY), also known as Delawares. The first Indian treaty ever made (Fort Pitt 1778) promised the Delawares they'd be the head tribe of the Indian nation and have a representative in Congress. They had 3 clans: Turkey, Wolf and Turtle. Tribal Treaties Database. |
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"I like the idea of hunting
turkeys with dogs, it should be allowed everywhere, and I think will be
eventually. It will make fall hunting much more popular, and assist in
reducing the crippling losses which are presently very high in hunts
without dogs." Lovett
Williams (read about turkey dogs in Lovett's book Wild
Turkey Hunting
& Management) “The Wild Turkey is the most vocal of all birds.” Learn the 29 calls (in the book above) at lovettwilliams.com |
The recipients of the survey were members of the National Wild Turkey Technical Committee. Responses via e-mail or telephone from 37 states and the province of Ontario reveal: The number of turkey hunters using dogs for fall hunting is very small, and; Two reasons were cited for the lack of concern about hunter success with dogs and potential for turkey population impact. First, there seems to be no data to suggest that turkey hunters using dogs are significantly more successful than those who do not. Second, the number of turkey hunters willing to properly train, house and feed a specialized turkey hunting dog is small." Fall Turkey Hunting with Dogs, A Survey of States and Provinces January 2006 - Bob Eriksen, NWTF Regional Biologist. 'The
Contenders' © 2009 courtesy George LaVanish
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"A good
dog never dies, he always stays, he walks besides you on crisp autumn
days when frost is
on the fields and winter's drawing near, his head within our hand in his old way." -- Mary Carolyn Davies |
If you live in a
State where hunting turkeys in the fall with your dog is still not
allowed (AL,
AR,
AZ,
FL, IL,
IN,
MA,
MN,
MO,
NM,
OK,
RI,
SD,
WA),
or you'd
like to work with others to amend the rules (like lengthen the season),
send us your contact
information. We'll put you in touch with others we know from
your State, and put you on our mailing list for news as it
happens.
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We hear this about
hunting turkey with dogs: "It's a rare and minor infraction of an
obsolete rule that's no longer applicable." And this: "the wardens
don't enforce it anyway, so why bother?" Because it's an injustice
that needs to be righted (in certain jurisdictions). The traditional
fall and winter seasons date back to the 1600's, much older than the
spring season (1950's), which only came about as a way to stop shooting
the hens that were just transplanted. Now, we have hunters from 9 to
99, who think the time to hunt turkeys is in the spring. Fall and
winter have always been the traditional time for the harvest, and
hunting of all game, primarily because turkeys are more abundant, and
they taste much better in fall, than in the spring. The mean life
expectancy of wild turkeys is only 1.3 to 1.6 years, so it makes sense
to harvest them in fall, because so many won't make it through their
second winter anyway. We want everybody to have turkey for Christmas,
that's one reason why we work to change the rules. Also for future
hunters, and those who long for the old time tradition.
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From MO to SC, biologists worry over the decline |
No State or Province allows turkey hunting at night, so a Surefire X300 B Turbo tan flashlight would not be needed. |
![]() In Alabama, you can use decoys in spring, but not in the fall! The alternative is the old coke can on a stick (orange row near the bottom). Sign the Petition for the Alabama Governor to keep their fall turkey season. Info. VICTORY |
Alaska doesn't have any
wild turkeys to hunt yet :o( |
Alberta
and British Columbia, Canada (also see Canada
below) treeing bird
dog collective seeks those interested in cultivating the art
of Nordic treeing bird dogs like the Laika
& Spitz... for baying large game (bear, moose),
treeing birds (Capercaille, Turkey) and fur-bearing game (bobcat,
marten, fisher-cats) with these dogs from Norway, Sweden, Finland and
Russia. In Europe the animal rights factions caused them to compromise on training dogs. Instead of training on live, wild animals, in Finland they use a bear-machine, called a konekarhu (directly translated as machine-bear). Eventually the Finnish government allowed exemptions for trials to be conducted on bears, but people still use the bear-machine as an instinct test. They have similar machines for moose and lynx. Here is the bear trolley from Sweden and Norway. In Sweden, the goverment gave permits to two zoos, to allow dogs to bark at bears. In most places, wild animals can't be used in trials, so they will have to follow in Sweden's or Finland's steps, until they can lobby the government to grant special permits. Welcome to America, where you can use your tree dogs on wild turkeys (where allowed). While it's generally harder to walk up on a turkey in a tree, than it is to call them to you, if that's your traditional way to hunt birds with your dogs, enjoy the hunt. |
![]() UPDATE 2008 - thanks to your comments, centerfire rifles, muzzleloading firearms and handguns are no longer legal methods of take, but shotgun slugs and rimfire are still allowed. But not dogs for hunting fall wild turkey. Even though the Apache and Pueblo used their dogs to tree turkeys and quail 1,000 years ago! |
Arkansas
turkeys may be hunted with a 28 gauge or .410 shotgun, but not with the
use of dogs. Arkansas closes their fall 2009 turkey hunting season! Probably just a concidence, a week before the Oklahoma-Arkansas chicken farm trial starts. It's long been known that domestic poultry litter causes blackhead and other diseases in wild turkeys. The Arkansas NWTF Field Day addresses the issue. |
California
has banned hunting
bear with hounds eff. 1/1/13 (read the comments!). They still
need to kill the same number of bears, just not with the help of dogs.
We know it's not the same, but we invite hound hunters to try turkey
hunting with a dog. |
Canada (map): British Columbia - dogs ARE allowed in the Spring AND Fall seasons. Anyone with a basic licence can take one a day. There are no regulations for dogs in British Columbia, except all dogs accompanying hunters on an ungulate-hunt must be on a leash. Alberta - dogs ARE allowed in Spring. There are no regulations on dogs for game-birds and turkeys are classified as game-birds. The only big-game or predator allowed for dogs is cougar. Alberta has no fall season. The Spring season is LEH (limited entry hunting- the term for tags issued by lottos). Saskatchewan - no Spring or Fall season (only 100 turkeys in Saskatchewan). Manitoba - dogs are not allowed (turkeys are classified as big-game, thus forbidden). Ontario - dogs ARE allowed in the Spring AND Fall seasons (see Ontario below). Quebec - their first fall season will happen in 2020. Dogs are allowed right from the start. New Brunswick - new spring season being launched in 2020 (400 tags available to residents only through draw). No fall season yet. |
Colorado has about 187
different game management units. Dogs are most appreciated to hunt the
mountains. |
Connecticut
is expected to allow hunting turkeys with a dog on private land during
the fall firearms season in 2013 (regulations are pending), thanks to
Connecticut wild turkey biologist Mike
Gregonis. Their fall firearm season is about a month long and
their archery season is about four and a half months long. Both with
liberal bag limits. 9/30/13 Connecticut is now open for fall turkey dogs on private lands. Mike Paciello |
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![]() “I would like to see dogs legal for fall turkey hunting in Florida.” Lovett Williams (via email 4/6/2005) Ask Florida to change the rules in honor of Lovett. Make a request to allow turkey hunting with a dog, by filling out the form at https://myfwc.com/contact/tell-us/improve/ The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission's Wild Turkey Program Coordinator is Biologist Roger Shields (roger.shields@myfwc.com Tel: 850-265-3676). Roger said: "From a biological standpoint, hunting turkeys with dogs probably is not detrimental for stable populations." He also pointed out that "research suggests, the more variety hunters have, both in species and methods, the more likely they are to stay hunters." |
![]() ![]() Joe Dobbins' great grandfather had a turkey dog in Georgia 100 years ago. Listen to Joe - click Play All. |
![]() ![]() ![]() The difference with the Anishinaabeg and Odawa Indians, from York Factory to Duluth to Green Bay to Waganawkezee and Michilimackinac, was that the area was never invaded or settled by Euopeans during the colonial period. "This fact alone gave the Odawa a history that differs sharply from that of better-known stories of the Iroquois, Shawnee, Cherokee, Creek, and others whom we know a great deal about. Their story also differed from that of many of their own kin living farther south at Detroit and in the Ohio Valley. Indeed, the Odawa's long history of mastering empires and keeping them at bay ultimately helped them to evade the Indian removals of the nineteenth century and remain where they were into the twentieth... The (British) cooped up at Fort Mackinac in the middle of the straits... they were in the midst of of a vast alien country and still very much dependent on neighboring Indians whom they could not entirely trust." Masters of Empire: Great Lakes Indians and the Making of America |
![]() In the Fall of 2017 a member said: I saw results posted from Illinois’ shotgun turkey season (a miserly nine days): a grand total of 350 birds were killed. I did not participate-in the excitement of applying for Wisconsin permits, I forgot to submit an application for Illinois. Guess I didn’t miss much though, from the sounds of it. P.L. 11/29/17 |
Indiana
- It is
illegal to use dogs, live decoys, electronically powered
or controlled decoys or recorded calls to hunt turkeys. "We killed about 13,193 gobblers in the spring of 2006, up from 11,159 in 2005. Indiana’s fall turkey season ran from Oct. 1 to ![]() In contrast to Wisconsin, we do not have good grouse populations and few grouse hunters. Our grouse populations have declined to very low levels and so have our grouse hunters. Most of our bird dog hunters focus primarily on quail and pheasants. We have also had a long tradition of field-trials often involving open country style hunts involving dog handlers on horseback. Our other major dog hunters pursue rabbits (primary beagles), raccoons (hounds), waterfowl/doves (generally retriever breeds), squirrels (mix breeds) and fox/coyotes (hounds & mix breeds). Most dogs used for hunting in Indiana have not been bred for use in fall turkey hunting like you would encounter in Appalachian states. There is a long fall hunting tradition in the Appalachian states and dog lines developed for turkey hunting are useful in locating turkeys in those extensive mountain areas. Getting any hunting regulations changed is an educational process and it’s often based on the public’s perception or opinion. The department holds periodic administrative rule hearings where citizens are invited to make proposals." Steve Backs - Wildlife Biologist - January 2007 - Division of Fish & Wildlife - Indiana Department of Natural Resources |
Iowa
- dogs are allowed beginning in 2005 for residents. The legislature
restricts the number of permits for nonresidents, and those are all
sold in the spring. You can use a dog in any matter you see fit.
Hopefully the scatter and call back method will get more popular as
hunters learn about it. The issue in Iowa is that only 7 or 8% of the
state is forested, and while there’s deer and turkeys in the other
areas, that’s where most hunters hunt. Guiding, outfitting and leasing
has grown in popularity, and excluding the residents because hunts can
be sold to nonresidents. Iowa is the second lowest, or the lowest, in acres
of public land in
the country (map,
map).
A
little
over
1.5%
of
the
state
is
public,
there's
no
national
forest,
and
very
little
wildlife
refuge
lands.
Private
land
is
getting
tied
up,
it’s just starting to be an issue there. Residents are complaining to
the legislature. The department is trying to find a balance. That’s
another reason they’re in favor of dogs for the fall season. Fall
permits, a habitat stamp fee, and a general small game hunting license
totals $49 for residents, or $189.50 for nonresidents (none
available).
Terry Little, Ph.D. Iowa
Department of Natural Resources June 22, 2005 |
Wild turkeys gobbling up eastern Kansas by Mike Belt for the Lawrence Journal - World (Nov. 21, 2006). Back then, Kansas has so many turkeys they hunted them like quail. UPDATE NOVEMBER 2019 the Kansas Fall Turkey Season used to be 10/1 to 12/3 and then 12/16 to 1/31 in Units 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 (Unit 4 closed), or about 110 days. Starting with the Fall 2020 season, they totally eliminated the December and January season. Now it'll run Oct. 1 thru Nov. 10 (41 days). It also used to be a four bird limit, now it's one per hunter in Fall. They also removed the second Spring turkey tag in Turkey Management Units 3, 5 and 6, beginning with the Spring 2020 season. "The biologists don't get hunters. Most of the fall birds are taken by archery deer hunters just shooting on an opportunity. If they just banned archery turkey hunting in the fall, that would have been a better result. In any event, I will keep running my Byrne dog in the fall even if I don't carry a shotgun. The beauty of the hunt is in the spirit of the dog." B.M. Wichita KS Read about the Great
Kansas Prairie Fire of 1869, started by a turkey hunting soldier →→→
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Maine - A
fall turkey hunting season with dogs is being considered. Update new
fall shotgun season Oct. 13-19.
Update August 24, 2007: A new fall shotgun season
and with dogs approved in Maine
for fall 2007. Update September 27, 2013 - The Maine fall
turkey hunting season
has expanded, and the state has added an extra bird to the
season limit in many Wildlife Management Districts. If you're
serious about fall and winter turkey hunting, Steve Hickoff's new book
is a must read: Fall
and Winter Turkey Hunter's Handbook |
"Thank you for contacting us about the proposed winter turkey season. We intend to allow the use of dogs in the January season if it is adopted as a regulation. Here is the link to our website with the proposed turkey season regulation and instructions to comment (make your comment before 4PM March 17, 2014 or attend one of two public meetings). Although not specifically stated in the proposal, we intend to allow the use of dogs during this season if it is approved." Bob Long - Wild Turkey and Upland Game Bird Project Manager, Maryland DNR 410-221-8838, ext. 106 February 26, 2014 Maryland's regulations say you can't use a dog in the spring, but by omission, you can use them in the fall and winter seasons. A hunter can also use a rifle or shotgun slug in the fall, but it's still 3 times harder than in the spring. Success rate in the fall season is about 10%... About 30% of spring hunters are successful in taking at least one turkey. https://dnr.maryland.gov/…/Docu…/WildTurkey_Annual_Report.pdf |
![]() By 1626, the Plymouth Colony limited the cutting of timber, so much had been cut down by that time, that the turkey's habitat was gone. The Wild Turkey: Biology & Management by James G. Dickson In 1934 a turkey
attacked a police dog in Haverhill, MA and won →
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![]() Exceptions: A person on foot may, without permission, enter private land without a firearm to retrieve a hunting dog. After retrieving the dog, the person must immediately leave the premises. Apparently those Norwegians cover every angle - it's no wonder then that in International Falls, MN it is still against the law for a dog to chase a cat up a telegraph pole, and dog owners can be fined for this. It's also still against the law in Minnesota to hang male and female underwear together on the same washing line. In Alexandria, MN it is still illegal for a man who has garlic, onions or sardines on his breath to have sex with his wife. Who cares about hunting turkey with a dog?! UPDATE Fall 2012 - Minnesota Fall Wild Turkey licenses will no longer be distributed by lottery. They may be purchased online, by telephone and wherever hunting and fishing licenses are sold. Minnesota Fall Wild Turkey Hunting Season is Sept. 29 - Oct. 28, 2012 but you still can't use a dog. |
![]() Update September 2012: Per Public Notice 2382, dogs cannot be used to hunt turkeys in Mississippi. If you wish to comment on this, or discuss further, please contact Dave Godwin, MDWFP Turkey Program Coordinator, at 662-325-5119 daveg@mdwfp.state.ms.us |
![]() Missouri's own Larry Dablemont tells it like it is in Turkey Call Champions and the Outdoor Guide Magazine Writer's Blog |
Montana's first fall
turkey season was in 2005, and dogs were allowed right from the
beginning, for either the spring or fall season, like it should be
everywhere. "A person may take game birds during the appropriate open
season with
the aid of a dog." "There is no law against hunting turkeys with a dog. As long as the dog does not take the bird (except for wounded birds) - it's legal." 8/7/09 Ken McDonald - Wildlife Division Administrator - Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks. 406-444-5645 |
Nebraska -
hunting wild turkey with a dog is not only allowed in the fall, it's
also allowed in the spring. On 7/16/2009 Scott Taylor of the Nebraska
Game and Parks Commission said there’s no restriction on using a dog
for spring or fall turkey. The way their regulations work, if it’s not
expressly prohibited, then it’s legal. So, since there’s no mention of
using dogs to hunt spring or fall turkey, then it’s allowed. On
7/20/2009 Kit Hams wrote: "My dog frequently accompanies me in the
Spring." Kit Hams - Big Game Program Manager - Nebraska Game and Parks
Commission 402-471-5442 |
![]() Update 2015 - Nevada Fall turkey hunts have been closed due to poor numbers. "The fall turkey hunt in Nevada has not been held for the last several years due to diminished population size. We currently do not have an anticipated reinstatement date as that will be predicated on better population performance. We are in our fourth year of extreme drought conditions and water availability along some of our major river corridors with turkey populations (e.g. Carson and Walker Rivers) is severely reduced. This has had some negative effects on turkey production. At the current time, we are being conservative with turkey seasons and quotas." Shawn Espinosa Upland Game Staff Biologist Nevada Department of Wildlife 1100 Valley Road Reno, NV. 89512 Phone: (775) 688-1523 August 4, 2015 Update 2019 Nevada has a Wild Turkey Fall Hunt in Paradise Valley of Humboldt County. |
New Hampshire
is proposing a fall 5 day shotgun turkey hunt in some units for 2006.
UPDATE June 2007! Thank you to Jon Freis, Jim Paige and Steve Hickoff for making a difference. DOGS ARE NOW ALLOWED during the NH fall turkey season, to facilitate the hunter in breaking up the flocks. |
![]() Use of Dogs: Dogs may not be used to hunt big game except bear and cougar (turkey is classified big game). Storage: Big game and turkey tags must remain with the meat. They authorize possession and storage for one year from the last day of the hunt. To store or possess meat after this date, you must have a storage permit from the Department of Game and Fish. |
North Carolina
has one of the oldest traditions of hunting turkey with a dog in the
fall or winter seasons. But there'll be no fall or winter turkey
hunting, with or without dogs in North Carolina starting in the fall of
2009 - spring hunting only. Russ Harris from Henderson, NC offers this
insight for you NC hunters and officials to ponder:![]() Blaming the winter season for low spring harvest numbers seems wrong for many reasons. First the winter harvest report in North Carolina indicates that very few turkeys are being harvested. In the six years where the season has been in place, never have more than 200 turkeys been reported. The number of winter turkeys harvested has never been more than one eighth of the spring harvest numbers. And the number of hunters who actually pursued winter turkeys has been very low. The harvest numbers reflect hunter participation in each county, rather than turkey populations in respective counties, according to Mike Seamster, the Wildlife Commission’s upland game bird biologist. Popular scientific belief is that turkey population densities are regulated by forces of nature, rather than hunting pressure. Seamster has said that most hunters do not realize that turkey populations are driven primarily by reproductive success, not harvest regulations and predators. Noted biologist Lovett Williams has said that turkeys taken in the fall or winter by hunters are accounted for in the overall survival rate of the species. A turkey that was taken by a hunter would have been taken by another predator or the elements. Furthermore, gobblers taken in the fall or winter would have a negligible impact on the success rate because turkeys are not monogamous. Surviving gobblers would take care of all receptive hens the next spring. Of course for every gobbler taken in the winter season, there will be one less turkey gobbling in the spring, but that would equate to only about ten less gobbling turkeys per county in the winter turkey hunting area." Turkey Hunting with Your Boykin Spaniel by Russ Harris |
Ohio
Update April 20, 2008: Fall turkey hunters will be able to hunt
the entire season from October 11 through November 30 with a
shotgun, muzzleloading shotgun, bow or crossbow. This new rule adds 35
days to the previous season for fall turkey gun hunting. Nine
additional northeast counties will also be open for fall turkey
hunting, bringing the total to 46 counties.
Ohio regulations allow hunters to use a leashed dog to help recover a wounded turkey during the spring season. This should be allowed in every State, but really, leashing a good dog only hinders it in finding a wounded bird. The AWTHDA recommends you put a Tracking and Training collar on the dog and let it run. UPDATE 2022 - Under the proposal received Wednesday, Ohio’s fall wild turkey season would see a reduction of three weeks, compared to the 2021 fall season. A statewide hearing on all proposed rules will be held on Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 9:00 a.m. 2021 Wild turkey, fall (select counties) Season Oct. 9, 2021 to Nov. 28, 2021 (7 weeks). 2022 Wild turkey, fall (select counties) Oct. 15 2022 Nov. 13, 2022 1 (4 weeks). Contact Matt Vitullo at 216-337-8591. |
![]() Either sex may be taken in the fall in some counties. |
Ontario, Canada spring and fall turkey dogs are here (Members Only). |
![]() ![]() Pennsylvania has a long tradition of hunting turkeys in the Fall, including with rifles and dogs. In the Fall of 2020, 200,000 hunters killed 17,602 turkeys, for a 8% success rate. In the Spring of 2020, 226,700 hunters killed 38,641 turkeys, for a 17% success rate. Why are turkeys so much easier to kill in the Spring, even without rifles and dogs, like in Fall? Pennsylvania studied that: In the 1960's, Pennsylvania State University researchers conducted experiments (orange row near the bottom of the page). |
![]() Principal Wildlife Biologist RIDEM Division of Fish and Wildlife 277 Great Neck Road West Kingston, RI 401-789-0281 Rhode Island turkey hunters - you have some professional allies! Archers - use a popup blind the first few years with a dog. Update - RI had a fall season 10/1/19 to 10/31/19 (archery only). Information for fall of 2020 comes out in the summer. |
![]() "Turkey hunting regulations are similarly muddled. On private land in 11 counties in the Low Country the season opens on March 15, while the rest of the state waits until the beginning of April. Likewise, and you can couch it delicately if you wish, but I won't. DNR spokesmen flat-out lied to sportsmen when the fall turkey hunting season was "suspended" the better part of two decades ago. Promises were made, in public hearings, that the traditional season would resume once hatch levels increased. That debt remains unpaid and seems unlikely to be paid so as long at the present wild turkey biologist holds sway. He is adamantly opposed to fall hunting for turkeys -- not on the basis of hard science or sound biology but rather because he just doesn't like it. Yet the country's pre-eminent authority on turkeys, Dr. Lovett Williams, has told yours truly on more than one occasion that there's nothing wrong with fall hunting where populations will sustain it." Jim Casada wrote that in The Herald (January 1‚ 2006). Then on November 22, 2008 he called the "lack of a fall turkey season in South Carolina a shame and disgrace." Rev. Zack Farmer said that Archibald Rutledge and Henry Davis "thought it an abomination that people were allowed to shoot gobblers during the spring season and likened it to shooting fish in a barrel. They thought it much more sporting to bust up a group of turkeys in the fall and call them back in and hunt them by stealth than use hen calls during the mating season to bring even wary old birds running foolishly to gun." The Times and Democrat Orangeburg, S.C. |
![]() Turkeys are classified as big game, therefore; It is illegal to use dogs to hunt big game. Restrictions; The following are illegal: To discharge a firearm, muzzleloader, crossbow or bow and arrow at any big game animal, except turkey to be taken with a shotgun using shotshells or with a bow and arrow, from within the right-of-way of an improved highway including gravel township roads. No turkey may be shot in a tree or roost. Lead shot is legal for turkey hunting on all public lands. Legal animals: “Any wild turkey” means any dark turkey that bears characteristics of a Merriam, Rio Grande or Eastern turkey. South Dakota permits private shooting preserves to offer hunting from Sept. 1-March 31 for pheasants, quail, partridge and turkey. |
"Tennessee does
allow dogs to be used while turkey hunting, both in the fall and in the
spring (if anyone ever uses them in the spring.) For fall turkey
hunting, we have a limited number of counties which allow hunts.
Hunting is allowed one of three ways. 1. If a county (let's use Hardeman as an example) has a quota hunt, anyone can apply for the Hardeman county hunt and if the big computer in Nashville pulls out their name, they can hunt with a shotgun during the limited dates specified on the permit. 2. If a person owns land in Hardeman county, he can hunt during those dates with a shotgun on his own land without a permit. 3. Since Hardeman county is open to shotgun hunting for landowners and permit holders, it is also open to anyone who is deer hunting with archery equipment during any of the archery-only deer hunts. In other words, if it is the archery season, and you are deer hunting in Hardeman county, and a turkey walks by, since Hardeman county is open to the quota hunts, you could shoot the turkey." Alan Peterson, Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, Nov. 23, 2004 In Tennessee, calling wild turkeys from March 1 to the opening day of spring turkey hunting on WMA's is prohibited. ..................................
Fall turkey is closed in 17
counties, open in 78 counties. Starting in the fall of 2018:
With concerns for
a recent dip in the wild turkey harvest, the TFWC
also voted to limit the fall turkey hunting seasons to bearded birds
only, dropping the harvest of hens during the fall. The spring turkey
season will remain the same as it has been in recent years, allowing a
four bearded bird bag limit. ..................................
Of the 686 turkeys killed in the Fall of 2017,
about half were hens (343). About half of them wouldn't of made it
through the winter (172). So, it'll be up to 172 hens, to produce
enough males, so spring hunters can still kill 4 toms each. With an
average of 3 poults making it alive until Fall and half of them being
males, that's an extra 258 huntable birds. If half of
them make it
until the next Spring, that's an extra 129 Jakes. If half of them make
it to 2 years old, that's another 65 gobblers. Adding 65 to the 34,620 killed in the spring
(2017) doesn't go very far (<.002%)...................................
There's
another option. If we kill too many in the spring for the population to
recover, stop hunting them in the spring. Hunt them in the traditional
fall season, like it used to be. Success rates show they're 3
times harder to kill
in the fall than in the spring. You'll get twenty times the
exercise too.
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Utah up
until 2014, Utah didn't have enough turkeys to have a fall season, but they always allowed dogs in the
spring. UPDATE - Utah will have a fall general season turkey hunt in 2014, the first fall hunt held in Utah since 1984 (and you can use your dog). Using dogs to hunt - Utah Admin. Rules R657-6-20 and R657-54-13 DOGS may be used to locate and retrieve upland game or wild turkeys during open hunting seasons. Or use a FALCON in the Fall. See the 2015–16 Utah Upland Game & Turkey Guidebook. Update 2018 - There's an abundant population. You can buy up to three fall hunting permits. During both the fall and spring seasons, you can use any shotgun firing shot that's BB or smaller in diameter. And during the fall hunt, you can hunt turkeys with rim fire firearms. Plus a 4 1/2 month season really justifys having a turkey dog in Utah. Join the club. |
Virginia Feb. 6, 2012 - The
Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries (VDGIF), in
cooperation with Virginia Tech's Department of Fish and Wildlife
Conservation, recently initiated an effort to develop a Virginia Wild
Turkey Management Plan, similar in scope and intent to the existing
statewide management plans for black bear and white-tailed deer.
Virginia Tech personnel will be hosting a series of focus group
meetings in March and April to discuss various aspects of wild turkey
management with Virginians who have a strong interest in management of
wild turkeys. The goal of these meetings is to seek input from
stakeholders regarding their views and opinions of wild turkey
management in Virginia. This information will be used to develop goals
for the Wild Turkey Management Plan.
VDGIF and Virginia Tech specifically are seeking individuals with strong interests in management of wild turkeys, including hunting (hunting in spring and fall, with and without dogs), individuals who have experienced conflicts with or suffered damage from wild turkeys, and others who have an interest in conservation of wild turkeys, to participate in these meetings. If you would like to be a focus group participant, contact: Holly N. Morris Graduate Research Assistant - Department of Fish and Wildlife Conservation 113 Cheatham Hall (0321) Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061 Phone: (304) 667-7037 UPDATE: June 12, 2012. The nine focus group meetings were conducted in April and May. Members can view summaries of the meetings HERE. UPDATE January 2013 VDGIF and Virginia Tech's Wild Turkey Management Planning Process |
Washington
- Our turkey population in the far eastern side of Washington is
booming. Both Merriams and Rios. In fact, the state has expanded the
turkey season in the fall with special permits and a general open
season. And Washington turkey hunters are able to shoot 3 turkeys a
year... two in Eastern Washington and one in Western Washington. One of
these days we may very well have the chance to use dogs during the fall
turkey season. June 27, 2005 Department of Fish and Wildlife has extended the time period for the Draft wild turkey management plan available for public comment. Read the Executive Summary. ![]() NEWS from Michael Day to Mick Cope 4/16/09- The Concise Explanatory Statement for the 2009-2011 hunting seasons adopted by the Fish and Wildlife Commission at their April 3-4, 2009 meeting in Olympia explains the changes the Commission has made regarding the 2009-2011 hunting seasons. *UPDATE 2012*: "Washington is looking for ways to increase participation in their fall turkey hunts. I suggest that they allow hunters to use dogs during the fall season only and to drop the fall permit system. Please send your comments in on Issue # 6 of the proposals, for the 2012 -2014 hunting season - https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/ The WDFW will accept written or email comments until Feb 21st, email to: wildthing@dfw.wa.gov Thanks for any help you dog & turkey lovers can provide." Tom Fritsch Goldendale, WA **UPDATE 2014**: Tom Fritsch has attended the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife commission meetings at various locations throughout Washington State for the last 10 years. He has finally convinced some of the commissioners that fall turkey hunting with dogs is a time honored and enjoyable tradition just as hunting grouse, wildfowl and upland birds with a dog. "Turkey dog hunting is one of the proposals now under consideration for the 2015-2017 Washington State hunting regulation changes. Our next chance to change this rule will not be until three more years from now. There are areas in Washington where turkeys are somewhat of a nuisance, they even allow the fall harvest of two beardless birds in certain game management units. Dogs will assist hunters in harvesting birds, while eliminating the loss of any wounded birds. Please help us make Washington State the 29th state to allow dogs for turkey hunting, by commenting on the proposals for wild turkey hunting with dogs. Here is the link: https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/ Click on the box 'View and Comment on Proposed Hunting Regulation Issues and Alternatives'. DEADLINE FOR COMMENTS IS SEPTEMBER 22, 2014. On the other issue, about comments for 'Fall Turkey General Seasons', I believe 'status quo' is good. We have a lot of early and late fall seasons to chose from." "Thanks for all AWTHDA members help, letters and comments over the last several years on this important issue. Call or write anytime." Tom Fritsch Goldendale, WA tel: 509-773-3380 September 2, 2014 Washington State is surrounded (by states and provinces that allow dogs for turkey hunting)! ***UPDATE 2018*** Under the Small Game and Hunter Orange Requirement (near the bottom of the page), we support the proposals, especially the second one that extends the fall turkey season in certain GMU's and replaces the fall permit season in Klickitat County with a general fall turkey season. In the comment box recommend the WDFW allow fall turkey hunting with dogs. Hunting—Hunter orange clothing requirements. Small game and other wildlife seasons and regulations. https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/2018-2020/index.php ****UPDATE 2020**** Make a Comment! Issue 6: Hunting for turkeys with dogs during the fall season. Deadline Sept. 15, 2020 2021-2023 season setting proposals - Small game proposals https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/season-setting# To view proposals by topic, click the corresponding link below (same as shown here below). Small Game and Furbearer https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/smallgameproposals_public.pdf Click below to enlarge: PLEASE NOTE: All hunters should support a rule that provides more hunting opportunities, especially with dogs. Tom has been working on this since 2004. Your comments are crucial to getting it passed! After 16 years, it was finally clear. It was shot down (every time), because the NWTF of Washington State doesn't want anyone hunting turkeys, in the fall, with a dog. WDFW - 2021 GIVE A DOG A BONE REGULATION - Update September 2021 - Washington gave us a Sept. 1 - Dec. 31 fall season this year. Last year our fall general season in Klickitat/Skamania counties in SW Washington was 3 weeks, Sept 26 - Oct 16. SW Washington has a bag limit of one either sex turkey. The NE and SE Washington counties had Sept 1 - Dec 31 general fall season last year with a four bird bag limit, two beardless and two either sex turkeys. This year the fall general season is Sept 1-Dec 31 for the entire state. This was the only regulation change that passed from this spring concerning turkey hunting in WA. Thanks for you and your members help this spring. Tom |
West Virginia
- You can train your dog on any game in West Virginia 365 days a year
and 24/7, including squirrel, rabbit, bear, or any game bird, EXCEPT
NOT on deer or turkey! Deer we understand, but turkey? This is one of
those old rules that have been in place for centuries. Technically,
your dog can only chase turkeys during the 3 week fall season. That
seems like a pup wouldn’t be a good turkey dog until he’s too old to
run up and down the mountains anymore! If you hunt West Virginia, or
are willing to help get the rules changed, give us a holler. |
Wisconsin -
Update May 27, 2009.
In Baraboo,
Wisconsin today, the DNR advanced the rule to allow turkey
hunting with your dog in the fall STATEWIDE, and the Natural Resource
Board approved it
unanimously. It’s a GREAT DAY for all hunters, and
especially turkey hunters in Wisconsin! Statewide, dogs are allowed
beginning in the fall of 2010, PLUS the fall season has been extended
for 2009 and 2010 the whole month of December.
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![]() A turkeys range is 1 to 5 square miles in WI study (write for text) |
![]() The 2011 Fall Turkey Hunting Season is September 17 to November 17. Plus an extended fall season for Zones 1-5, from November 28 to December 31. Hunt Wisconsin turkeys on the snow in December, like hasn't been done since the mid 1800's! Graphic courtesy Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. |
![]() Here's maps of where
the turkeys and wolves are in Wisconsin? →
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![]() ![]() If your turkey dog
is wide ranging, check out the Wisconsin
Timber Wolf Maps before you go. Click on maps to enlarge. The Wisconsin
Timber Wolf is no longer endangered and was delisted
1/29/07. The highest risk of wolf depredation
to dogs seems to occur in July through September. Wolves
injured or killed a lot of dogs
in Wisconsin. The chances of your Turkey Dog meeting with Wisconsin
wolves are localized, predictable, in only 10% of the
wolf's range, and concentrated in northwestern WI near Lake
Superior, but their nice map makes it look like a lot more than that, wouldn't
you say?
Brazen wolves near Anchorage killing dogs that are walking with their owners. VIDEO! Wolves kill woman jogging in Alaska 3/8/10. Alaska Fish & Game killed the two wolves responsible. Wolves in Illinois - story with game camera pictures. |
"The cowman who clears his range of wolves has not learned to think like a mountain. Hence we have dustbowls and rivers washing the future into the sea." Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac, 1949. |
The prejudice
against wolves in
the United States originated with the European government's preference
for livestock husbandry practices over wild
animals. Colonists worrying about losing livestock to wolves was
something English farmers hadn't had to worry about since the 1400's,
wolves had been mostly extirpated in Europe by then. By
the mid-1600's, English
colonists in Virginia who killed a wolf, earned
a bounty of a hundred pounds of tobacco. But for every 8 wolves an
Indian killed, they received one cow. This was the
way to 'civilize' the Indians and make them 'Christians'. Raising
livestock was integral to civilized living. In early Jamestown, the herdsman's main job was to protect the cattle from wolves and Indians. Islands on the James River and in Chesapeake Bay were emptied of wolves and filled with cattle and hogs, so they wouldn't have to build and maintain fences. Animals into the Wilderness: The Development of Livestock Husbandry in the Seventeenth-Century Chesapeake by Virginia DeJohn Anderson |
What is the wild turkey population in Wisconsin? 350,000 (2014) ...the last Wisconsin wild turkey population estimate of 350,000 turkeys... p. 38 Section 2, Ecology of Wild Turkeys in Wisconsin - A Plan for their Management: 2015 - 2025 Wisconsin wild turkey update |
History
of trapping, transplanting and restoring wild turkeys in Wisconsin.![]() Wild turkeys disappeared from eastern Wisconsin by 1846 (page 172). The Wisconsin Frontier - A History of the Trans-Appalachian Frontier by Mark Wyman 1976 - Wisconsin’s wild turkey... were reintroduced to the state in 1976. P. iii of turkeyplan.pdf Program funding for the turkey translocation project through the 1980s was provided by federal Pittman-Robertson revenue and state hunting license sales. P. 13 turkguide.pdf In January 1976, 29 turkeys were released in the Bad Axe River watershed in Vernon County, and over the following nine years a total of 334 Missouri wild turkeys were released at various sites in southwestern Wisconsin. P. 24 turkeyplan.pdf 1981 - And the story doesn’t end with just a successful wild turkey reintroduction. In July 1981, about 40 people met in a restaurant west of Milwaukee to discuss forming a Wisconsin chapter of the NWTF. A Wisconsin organization followed, and NWTF involvement in Wisconsin facilitated funding and hunter support. P. 23 ss1079l.pdf 1983 - The first Spring season in Wisconsin was in 1983. Membership in the Wisconsin chapter of the NWTF increased to over 500 just two years later, and volunteers initiated turkey hunter education clinics. 1989 - The first Fall turkey hunting season in Wisconsin was in 1989. 1990 - The NWTF replaced these funds in 1990 with an innovative funding mechanism. They located other states interested in establishing wild turkey populations and brokered a deal that provided trapped turkeys from Wisconsin at $500 per bird. This funding source completely paid for the entire trapping and relocation program through 1993. P. 24 ss1079l.pdf 1990 - As the program progressed, the National Wild Turkey Federation’s (NWTF) “Target 2000” program provided additional funding by coordinating restoration programs in other states and reimbursing Wisconsin $500 per turkey shipped out of state. Beginning in 1990, nearly 1,400 turkeys were shipped to Michigan, Minnesota, North Carolina, Kentucky, Texas, and Louisiana over the next decade. P. 26 turkeyplan.pdf 2010 - Thanks to the founding of the American Wild Turkey Hunting Dog Association in 2004 and their efforts since then, dogs are finally allowed to hunt Wisconsin turkeys, beginning in the Fall of 2010. Join the AWTHDA. |
"In the U.S., turkeys tied
raccoons for second place behind deer for public complaints about
wildlife damage to field crops, accused of racking up in excess of $600 million US in damages." |
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We
found a genuine need for a trained dog to harass sandhill cranes when a
farmer asked me to keep the cranes off his corn field. He said; "last
year they really did a lot of damage, you can tell it's cranes doing it
because the plant is plucked from the ground." The next morning we were
up at 5AM. I sicced Keena on the big birds and she beelined across a 40
to chase them away. They didn't come back for 3 days. It doesn't hurt
the crane (they see the dog coming and take off), and we get our
exercise. MI, MN, and WI farmers were authorized to use a nonlethal
bird repellent since 2006 for use on corn seed to deter
sandhill cranes. The cranes walk along the row, pluck the plant out and
eat the kernel that's still there. They only do that for ~1 week
(depending on soil type and temps), until the kernel disintegrates. The
farmer greatly appreciated having someone monitor the fields for him,
and we were glad to do it. Check first with binoculars if the cranes
have young with them, they may not be as willing to take flight. "Bill
stabs by cranes have killed humans and dogs (pdf)".
The
young
might
be
hidden
in
the
long
grass
nearby
so
approach
cautiously,
and
keep
the
dog
leashed
until
you're
sure.
If
the
cranes
don't
take flight by the time you're within 200 yards they may not intend to.
Update
- special dogs are crane scarers. The International Crane
Foundation points out that scaring the birds off to the
neighbors cornfield might not be any better. So, there's lots of
considerations before putting your valuable turkey dog on a crane. If
nuisance cranes are bothering the corn, or territorial cranes are
causing damage to property or themselves by attacking their reflection
in glass windows, write to the AWTHDA
Crane Scarers. Professional, natural, environmentally
friendly nuisance fowl control. The economical alternative to Avipel®.
Except for that short period when corn is emerging, Sandhill Cranes can
be the farmers best friend. Here's a juvenile Great Blue Heron, they
make really excellent mousers and insect eaters, as these pictures
taken in September 2009 attest! My turkey dog barks at the intruder,
but recognizes it's not a turkey!![]() ![]() ![]() |
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