One
of America's most cherished renewable resources.
The French explorers called them Le
Dindon sauvage Natives in the Mexican state of Chihuahua (the Rarámuri, or Tarahumara), "literally run the birds to death, in what is referred to as persistence hunting. Forced into a rapid series of takeoffs, without sufficient rest periods between, the heavy-bodied bird does not have the strength to fly or run away from the Tarahumara hunter." Ring-necked pheasants are known nest parasites of wild turkeys. There are six subspecies of Meleagris gallopavo. The south Mexican wild turkey (Meleagris gallopavo gallopavo) is one of the smallest subspecies and is best known in Spanish from its Aztec-derived name, guajolote. The south Mexican wild turkey is considered the nominate subspecies and is thought to be critically endangered, as of 2010. The World Bird Database tells us the Mexican wild turkeys geographic range is from Jalisco to Veracruz and south to Guerrero. |
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They brought him two wild turkeys and a domestic one. The wild turkeys surely weighed 40 pounds each. |
![]() ![]() "I
was raised in Parker VA, within walking distance of that farm
(Winewood). I started turkey hunting on that same land my dad and
grandfather did (they knew W. E. Wine). People called them moss head
turkeys, because they had feathers like peach fuzz on the back of their
heads. They didn't talk much, very hard to call in.
In the 1960's a New York company bought it, put in roads, developed it, it took off big time. I lost 3,000 acres to hunt on when they closed it. Later Joe Gibbs, the head coach of the Washington Redskins bought it. Today it has a golf course, filled with million dollar homes, renamed Fawn Lake, now a gated community." Eddie W. 2/14/21 |
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Today
most turkey hunters think Spring is the time to hunt wild turkeys, but
Fall is the traditional time (see
explanation in the 2nd
Green Row down). Our earliest stories of spring
turkey hunting in the United States come from: Rutledge 1907,
Jordan/McIlhenny 1914, Turpin 1924, Everitt 1928, Mosby and Handley
1943, Davis 1949.![]() What was turkey hunting with a dog like for the last 400+ years? The breeding and hunting of fine turkey dogs originated in Virginia, still the #1 state for turkey dogs today. These special dogs were bred and hunted in the Tidewater and Piedmont areas of Virginia. Historically, they weren't used in the mountains (Blue Ridge and Appalachians). The British quail dogs became the Virginia turkey dogs. ![]() Now recent archaeological and anthropological studies show it was a longstanding tradition of many native Americans to hunt turkeys in the spring, for the last several thousands of years. Did the immigrants learn spring turkey hunting from the natives? Is that part of the reason the turkey population was decimated (they were hunted year round, but they're most susceptible in the spring), in addition to the introduced European diseases that the turkey had no resistance to? Quoting the recent studies: “Passenger pigeons' diet centered on mast, the collective name for acorns, beechnuts, hazelnuts, chestnuts, and the like; they also really liked maize. All were important foods to the Indians of eastern North America. Thus passenger pigeons and Native Americans were ecological competitors. A consulting archeologist in Atlanta... noted that Indians had also vied for mast and maize with deer, raccoons, squirrels and turkeys. Unsurprisingly, they hunted all of them with enthusiasm, as documented by the bones found in archaeological sites. Indeed, Indians actually sought out nursing or pregnant does... They hunted wild turkey in spring, just before they laid eggs (if they had waited until the eggs hatched, the poults could of survived, because they will follow any hen). The effect was to remove competition for tree nuts. The pattern was so consistent, that Indians must have been purposely reducing the number of deer, raccoons and turkeys.” Reference: 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus ***
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"Interestingly, there are over four hundred dog breeds today, and most of them were developed in just the last 150 years." "The data also confirm the idea that dogs moved with humans from Asia into the New World and were not domesticated from scratch with wolves in North America. The large majority of breeds, however, likely have recent, European origins, according to the authors." ![]() Who started hunting turkeys with dogs? Did the Jamestown VA immigrants learn it in the sacred hunting grounds of the Indians and their dogs that survived the period? Soon after, the Europeans imported hunting dogs. Virginians refined turkey hunting with a dog and kept the tradition alive for the next 400 years. See the source cited by the 1491 book and read more about the origin of the Turkey Hunting Dog. 1890 Wild Turkey Hunt with Indian Guide photo by special permission of the Smithsonian Institution, National Museum of American History, Home and Community Life, Harry T. Peters 'America on Stone' Collection (Image Use | Copyright | Credits). 1606 Apalatchy VA map credit: Jodocus Hondius [1606]-1636 Amsterdam. Old turkey dog hunter and Valley RR photos courtesy Steve Turpin. |
“Our ability to perceive quality in nature begins, as in art, with the pretty. It expands through successive stages of the beautiful to values as yet uncaptured by language.” Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac |
![]() Turn up the speakers. The Caddo Nation 5 part turkey dance. The Zuni Indian turkey dance at the Albuquerque Indian Cultural Center. In 1834, Karl Bodmer illustrated the Hidatsa Warrior - Two Ravens Hand-coloured aquatint engraving by Rene Rollet after Bodmer. $60,000.00 |
![]() ![]() ...chickens and turkeys are genetically the closest dinosaur relatives (The Wonder of Birds by Jim Robbins) |
National
Geographic - Man
and
Dog
an
Evolving Partnership (49 minutes), compliments of Hulu. |
The Wild Turkey Population Dynamics Research Project transcript available upon request. Photos courtesy Steve Turpin. |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ben Tennison of Western Mule Magazine hunts turkeys in the fall with his Missouri Jumping Mule. "When I see a flock across a field I just ride slowly towards them. Generally the flock will go into the woods where they're all bunched up. That's when I run my mule at them full speed, and if we get a good scatter, I tie up my mule a ways away, sit down and call the flock back. It doesn't always work, but it sure beats trying to run at them myself, especially at my age." Ben fully agrees Missouri should allow dogs in the fall. Photos © Western Mule Magazine. Starting in the fall of 2005 Missouri will have a longer season, and hunters can take both birds the same day. |
![]() "But there is another kind of sport better suited to the winter months before the gobblers would answer a call: and that is, hunting them with a properly trained turkey dog. A well-trained dog will never range very far from his master till he finds the warm scent of a single turkey or a flock. Then he will start upon the trail without giving tongue until he finds the game. He will then run on, and by continual yelping, compel it to ascend some tree." 1866 A Hunter's Experiences in the Southern States of America |
There are a great many in the same place, but he could do nothing without a dog." M. Le Page Du Pratz, The History of Louisiana 1724. Receive a Native American Name for your new turkey dog, from 47 Indian Tribes. |
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Yet in
1804 to 1806, the Lewis
& Clark Expedition ate 1001 Deer, 375 Elk, 227 Bison,
but only 9 turkeys. The turkey population may have succumbed to blackhead,
from the introduction of chickens into the new
world. George Catlin participated in a Sioux Indian ceremony of friendship at which a meal of dog meat was the center of the festivities... Long's men observed how their host treated the cooked dog carcasses with reverence, each bone being meticulously cleaned in preparation for burial. The Sioux buried the bones to show respect for the species and to encourage more dogs to come into the world... The Indian sees fit to sacrifice his faithful companion to bear testimony to the sacredness of his vows of friendship. |
![]() ![]() Read about Alabama's turkey dog history in John's Outdoor Life Complete Turkey Hunting |
![]() Outdoor writer Steve Hickoff travels from Maine to New York to hunt turkey with his dog. Update March 2006 NH is proposing a fall shotgun hunt, details on the Legislation page. UPDATE June 2007! DOGS ARE NOW ALLOWED during the NH fall turkey season. Update August 2007: A new fall shotgun season and with dogs approved in Maine for fall 2007. Steve's latest book features dogs, and is a must read: Fall and Winter Turkey Hunter's Handbook Maine 2013 - Here's a photo of one of our many successful fall hunts. L to R - son Tim Wescott, GSP Gunny (age 2), Niles Oesterle. Target species in foreground. Gunny had 19 scatters in 2012 as a pup. Didn't try to keep track in fall 2013. Maine season was four weeks long with two bird bag limit. We hunted and/or guided all but two days..... so there's room for improvement ;-) Love the Turkey Dog News! Jim Wescott Tenth Legion Guides Maine From 2013 to 2020, in Maine and New Hampshire! GSP Gunny and English cocker Henry having a great time chasing northern New England flocks. Gunny was in the NWTF Turkey Country September/October 2020. Our old Damascus Parker hammerguns have had warm barrels all fall. Happy Thanksgiving. Jim Wescott, Maine ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fine New Hampshire morning, excellent bust and classic call back of two Granite State jakes. (Robb on left, yours truly on the right) ![]() The Parkers range from 0 grade to grade 2 and cost from $350 - 2,500, depending on condition, originality etc. The less expensive are great finds or need some work. They are all 30 yard guns with some capable of a little more. I’ve owned ten Parkers, all Damascus hammerguns over 140 years old, 12 gauges chambered 2 5/8”. My hunting buddies have a great interest in them also. I reload black powder shells in full length brass or once-fired paper. My best guns have birds and setters engraved on the sides and floor plate, some have no engraved animals. As you can imagine they are a blast to shoot and add so much to the hunt. I’ve been hunting turkey with Parkers for 20 years and turkey dogging for the last 12. Thank you for putting so much great information on the AWTHDA. Jim Wescott, Maine 11/6/20 |
![]() Since 1987, it gets a lot more outrageous than that at Turkey Trot Acres, the NorthEast's Premier Hunting Lodge. |
'Indian children had to learn the different calls of the turkey, to communicate among hunting and war parties.' Samuel Kercheval A HISTORY OF THE VALLEY OF VIRGINIA A history of the valley of Virginia |
![]() ![]() Fall Turkey Hunting: Chasing that Elusive "Thanksgiving Butterball" By James Austin and Ron Seiss (see last page of the pdf). Mississippi expands their area for the fall 2006 turkey hunt, but dogs are not allowed. See details on the Legislation page. |
![]() ![]() As of June 30, 2007, after 15 months of hard lobbying by the PA chapter of the AWTHDA, PA once again allows turkey hunting with a dog, like they did in the 1800's. |
Memoirs of Lieutenant Henry Timberlake (The First American Frontier) by Henry Timberlake. The Cherokee Chief Standing Turkey went with Henry Timberlake to London in 1762-1763. Standing Turkey's nephew, Chief Stalking Turkey, was half Shawnee and half Cherokee. (The Native Americans used many techniques for hunting or capturing wild turkeys. Unlike the wild turkey of today, the birds were unwary of humans and easily captured. The Wild Turkey: Biology & Management by James G. Dickson) Photo courtesy Steve Turpin. |
![]() ![]() western country is exciting sport... Well-trained turkey dogs are useful in chasing winged birds, which a man could never catch.' Audubon (1840) 'The Californian and Texan horsemen course hare, antelope, and wild turkey with their fleet greyhounds.' Theodore Roosevelt - Hunting Trips of a Ranchman 1885. |
![]() "We can ‘run’ them as we were about to do had they been buffaloes.” “Ha! ha! ha!” laughed François; “run a turkey! Why it will fly off at once. What nonsense you talk, brother!” “I tell you, no,” replied Basil. “It is not nonsense—it can be done—I have often heard so from the trappers,—now let us try it ourselves.”... He saw the dog standing by the root of a large oak. He had “treed” the turkey, and was looking upward with glancing eyes, barking and wagging his tail. The Boy Hunters by Captain Mayne Reid (1818-1883). |
![]() ![]() In Audubon's time, he couldn't find a single wild turkey in some areas of the Northeast. Today, Connecticut has 40,000 turkeys. New biography - John James Audubon : The Making of an American |
![]() This photo (from a wood-engraved illustration made from the artists sketch) depicts fall/winter turkey hunting with a dog. One hunter keeps the dog still, while the other calls to the regrouping turkeys. Turkeys in the trees are pitching down to ones on the ground. "Yelping Up Wild Turkeys" from the 1/10/1885 Harper's Weekly (A Journal of Civilization), drawn by W.L. Sheppard (1833-1912). Photo courtesy of America's Oldest Name in Custom Calls |
'American Indians would attract the gobbler by placing a decoy, then hiding behind logs and imitating the call of the hen.' John D. Hunter, Memoirs of Captivity among the Indians of North America 1823 |
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![]() ![]() The backwoodsmen and western settlers think “The only bird worthy of their attention is the wild turkey.” Wm. Priest, Travels in the United States of America, 1795 |
"Wild turkeys are relatively easy to catch; some Native Americans used snares and pole traps to secure one bird at a time." W. P. Baldwin, Trapping wild turkeys in South Carolina, Journal of Wildlife Management II 1947 Photos © Monte Loomis |
Pioneers built traps to catch
wild turkeys, they were the settlers primary source
of food.
How to trap wild turkey from A Boys Own Book of Outdoor Sports Rare print of wild turkey trap by Peter Rindisbacher (1833). |
![]() Picture courtesy of Steve Turpin A Dog's History of America : How Our Best Friend Explored, Conquered, and Settled a Continent |
![]() ![]() You can go to bed every night thinking about how much fun you had twenty years ago, and it all comes back clear as moonlight." — Robert Ruark "The Old Man's Boy Grows Older," 1957 |
![]() ![]() PBS and Nova special on how dogs evolved from wolves, and the truth about dogs. |
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